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==希图姆日本语==

希图姆日本语与希顶日本语结构类似，但字母使用有所区别。

字母（以希图姆聊天字母表示，いろは序）：

i 3 8 G p h H / q N nu_ lu_ du_

w g 5 b l y / d n 7 r 6

u 4 X o c 1 2 / k f z e t

a C j Y x E B / T O m s Tu_

V

字源

同音：i G p h q nu_ lu_ l n u o c k e t a m

平/片假名形近: 3 H du_ y 4 z C x T

8: 形近阿拉伯数字8，日语发音 hachi，取首个音节

N: IPA音标/ŋ/与平假名り形近

w: wa 取其声母

g: ka>ga 取其声母

5: 平假名形似其汉写“与”

b: 片假名形似其汉写“夕”

d: 大写右半边与平假名形似

7: 形近阿拉伯数字7，日语发音 nana，取首个音节

r: 拉丁转写为ra，取其首字母

6: 形近阿拉伯数字6，日语发音 mu

X: 大写与平假名形似，左侧开口

1: 片假名中竖直笔画形似1

2: 汉写体“又”在日语中有 mata 的读法，取首个音节

f: 拉丁转写有 fu 的写法

j: 取假名字源“几/幾”之现汉音声母

Y: 平假名写法中包含"Y"之字形

E: 字母名称 4Egv 有水的含义，水在日语中有 mizu 的读法，取首个音节

B: 汉写体“白”在日语中有 shiro 的读法，取首个音节

O: 汉写体“日”在日语中有 hi 的读法

s: se 取其声母

Tu_: thu 与 su 音较近 [[User:Rachel1211|Rachel1211]]（[[User talk:Rachel1211|留言]]） 2023年9月15日 (五) 11:11 (CST)

==Mnemonic==

Happy Chinese New Year! （AK<span style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(-45deg);">Э</span>XTO!T&#8243;├Ɐ）

<blockquote><poem>A = Rising sun. The flags are usually made of silk or paper.
I = As for colors. ...and smells, they'll scatter in the water.
U = Ueno. Ueno Yuuka is a famous female singer.
E = English. English is the official language of many European countries.
O = Osaka. Ootsuka Ai, who was born there, had excellent voice.
Ka = Exchange. In the past, people in some places used farm animals for exchange.
Ki = Stamp. Some stamps have themed drawings, such as long-haired creatures.
Ku = Club. Golf clubs are made of wood, and so are playing cards.
Ke = Landscape. Butterflies are highlighting strokes to the landscape.
Ko = Children. Children like to celebrate Christmas and Chinese New Year.
Sa = Japanese cherry. Songs that mention the flower often mention walking soldiers as well.
Si = Newspaper. Newspapers catch fire easily, but TV news doesn't.
Su = Sparrow. It can't fly high; it just bounces on branches and stones.
Se = World. It's always a flesh-eat-flesh world out there.
So = Abacus. It has a box of beads, like flowers in a flowerbed.
Ta = Cigarettes. Smoking is bad for your health and the natural environment.
Ti = Plover. The threads in a cross-stitch resembles the traffic network.
Tu = Crane and tortoise. They'll live as long as - or outlive - the mountains.
Te = Written letter. Some may be worrying that penmanship is dying out.
To = Tokyo. Tokyo is home to many of the "other things".
Na = Nagoya. This city has a famous fish market.
Ni = Japan. The map of Japan is similar to the side of a face.
Nu = Numazu. Literally meaning "harbor of marsh" - reminds one of wild animals.
Ne = Rats. Rats are often a big trouble to households.
No = The plains. The plains is a very flat area of land.
Ha = Postcard. Postcards are written by hand and passed from hand to hand.
Hi = Airplane. No one would use an airplane in a religious ceremony.
Hu = Fuji. The volcano is a gray watering can that pours lava.
He = Harmony. Farmers make a harmonious scene in the field of crops.
Ho = Insurance. Housing is one of the items involved in insurance.
Ma = Matches. Some people ask for matches after finishing a meal.
Mi = Mikasa. Three is slightly bigger than two, and the hat is made of bamboo.
Mu = Wireless. Wireless radio communication takes place in the air.
Me = Meiji. The family law and many others develops in that period, though not modern.
Mo = Japanese maple. Those trees turn the whole mountain red in the fall.
Ya = Ancient Japan. It produced great pages of art, and it's still doing now.
Yu = Bow and arrow. Cupid carries arrows with heart shapes.
Yo = Yoshino. There are only three different syllables beginning with Y.
Ra = Radio. Signals from the radio factory spread wide.
Ri = Apples. Hippomenes won the contest by throwing down golden apples.
Ru = House-sitters. They're left in villages when others cross cliffs.
Re = Lotus flower. It is also the name of a china spoon. <!-- 匕 -->
Ro = Rome. The European city has tall walls for the Colosseum.
Wa = Bracken. Bracken is small, with feather-like leaves.
Wi = The wells.
We = It's hooked. (These two letters are no longer in the modern alphabet.)
Wo = Owari. A few people had close-tied relatives from that former province.
N = End of the alphabet. All are planned by men.
</poem></blockquote>

==Encoder==

The Python-based encoder is here. Unfortunately, it can't handle kanji.

<pre>import sys
#C This program can't handle angle brackets.
a=[57455,57439,57490,57474,57491,57475,57501,57485,57488,57472,
57427,57427,57381,57381,57436,57436,57428,57428,57386,57386,
57387,57387,57383,57383,57388,57388,57473,57473,57384,57384,
57377,57377,57382,57382,57396,57380,57380,57426,57426,57390,57390,
57435,57480,57432,57437,57425,
57481,57481,57481,57438,57438,57438,57434,57434,57434,57429,57429,57429,57378,57378,57378,
57477,57479,57478,57376,57379,
57405,57389,57492,57476,57498,57482,
57431,57391,57484,57424,57430,
57401,57385,65533,65533,57433,57483,57475,65533,65533]
a=a+[65533,65533,
8243,176,8243,176,
65533,65533,65533,45]+a+[57385,65533,65533,57433,
183,8212,
65533,65533,65533]
a=12353*[0]+a
da=[12364,12366,12368,12370,12372,
12374,12376,12378,12380,12382,
12384,12386,12389,12391,12393,
12400,12403,12406,12409,12412,
12436,12446]
da=da+[n+96 for n in da]+[12535,12536,12537,12538]
ha=[12401,12404,12407,12410,12413]
ha=ha+[n+96 for n in ha]

a[10]=10
a[32]=32

while(1):
 c=ord(sys.stdin.read(1))
 if(12352<c<12544):
  print(chr(a[c]),end='')
  if(c in da):
   print(chr(a[12443]),end='')
  if(c in ha):
   print(chr(a[12444]),end='')
 else:
  print(chr(c),end='')</pre>

Thanks, it worked! ″″″ [[User:Translated ORK|Translated ORK]]（[[User talk:Translated ORK|留言]]） 2025年3月31日 (一) 17:15 (CST)

==注意多音字==

<poem>&#404;J = x<small><small>8</small></small>꜔
J&#8243;⅄ZⱯ = ⁊ɜ𑀟 ߆e꜔

Z├ᗺ&#8243; = ⁊iɤ '''diey'''
GB<tt>I</tt> = '''o꜔uo''' <tt>I</tt>

ᗺwK&#8516; = '''pio''' j<small><small>ʎ</small></small>
GƋG&#8243;&#444; = '''jbia''' dx<small><small>8</small></small>l

ⱯX├&#8243;X = &#273;u<small><small>6</small></small> ꜔nə
ƋƟCE = tpi<small><small>ʎ</small></small> E

ⱯX4 = zh<small><small>6</small></small>꜔
JᕍJ = h<small><small>6</small></small>

Z&#8243;꒛ = wi<small><small>Ɐ</small></small> lɛ
Ɐᛋ = ulɛ

&#444;OX = <small><small>ʎ</small></small>pi<small><small>Ɐ</small></small> X
P&#8243;C&#444;Q = pi<small><small>Ɐʎ</small></small> &#444;Q
XMH&#8243; = pi<small><small>Ɐʎ</small></small>

ZCⱯ = '''g<small><small>Ɐ</small></small>h''' <small><small>4</small></small>i<small><small>Ɐ</small></small>꜔ <!-- The linggai shidinn transcriber got it wrong, so beware -->
X7&#8243;R = sue&#603; '''y<small><small>Ɐ</small></small>꜔'''

ⱯᛋBE = pi<small><small>Ɐ</small></small> E

E├ = nu&#629;꜔ （≠nu&#629;a）
</poem>

稍后再补充 [[User:ColorfulGalaxy|ColorfulGalaxy]]（[[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy|留言]]） 2025年1月30日 (四) 17:24 (CST)

==英文字母==
{| class="wikitable"
!A!!B!!C!!D!!E!!F!!G
|-
|<tt>I</tt>&ndash;||U&#8243;&ndash;||X&ndash;||T&#8243;ɛ&ndash;||E&ndash;||<tt>I</tt>7||X&#8243;&ndash;
|-
!H!!I!!J!!K!!L!!M!!N
|-
|<tt>I</tt>EQ||AE||X&#8243;i&ndash;||K&ndash;||<tt>I</tt>1||<tt>I</tt>6||<tt>I</tt>V
|-
!O!!P!!Q!!R!!S!!T!!U
|-
|O&ndash;||U&#176;&ndash;||Jɤ&ndash;||A&ndash;1||<tt>I</tt>S||Tɛ&ndash;||&#404;&ndash;
|-
!V!!W!!X!!Y!!Z (BrE)!!Z (NAmE)
|-
|7&#8243;E||&#444;&#8243;7&#8243;꒛ɤ&ndash;||<tt>I</tt>wCS||ΓE||<big><big>e</big></big>&#8243;w├||S&#8243;ɛ&ndash;
|}

Disclaimer: Γ&#444;X[[Special:Diff/37032|ᗺ]] ƟP&#8516;Z&#8243;ᖷ ᗺB<big><big>e</big></big>BE. The texts above may contain errors. [[User:ColorfulGalaxy|ColorfulGalaxy]]（[[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy|留言]]） 2025年2月11日 (二) 15:05 (CST)

==Missing kanji==

ZƋAE = fi<small><small>8</small></small>ɛ hie (Note: the more common kanji is not in the database, and it conflicts with another character according to the [[Fiyifnzao_(English)|orthography]].)<sup>[{{x|yL DA Fi2}}]</sup>

WX&#8243; = ? (Kanji not found in database)

[[User:ColorfulGalaxy|ColorfulGalaxy]]（[[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy|留言]]） 2025年3月23日 (日) 11:57 (CST)

:that's too bad [[User:Translated ORK|<span style="color:blue;background:yellow;"><ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt>″</rt></ruby>″<ruby><rt></rt></ruby></span>]][[User talk:Translated ORK|<span style="color:aqua;background:red;"> <ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby> <rt></rt></ruby></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Translated ORK|<span style="color:red;background:aqua;">″″<ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby></span>]][[User:Translated ORK/CP|<span style="color:yellow;background:blue;"><ruby><rt>″</rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby></span>]]   2025年3月31日 (一) 17:19 (CST)

==尝试模仿了一下 T. ORK 的签名（==

<span style="color:#fb0;background:#f6b">~ {{ruby||}}{{ruby||}} ″<> </span><span style="color:#f6b;background:#fb0">~ {{ruby||}}{{ruby||″}}<  > </span><span style="color:#3d9;background:#b8e">~ ″</span><span style="color:#b8e;background:#3d9">{{ruby||″}}″</span> —[[User:DGCK81LNN|DGCK81LNN]]（[[User talk:DGCK81LNN|留言]]） 2025年6月26日 (四) 13:42 (CST)

:this song called "havent started yet"? [[User:Translated ORK|<span style="color:blue;background:yellow;"><ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt>″</rt></ruby>″<ruby><rt></rt></ruby></span>]][[User talk:Translated ORK|<span style="color:aqua;background:red;"> <ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby> <rt></rt></ruby></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Translated ORK|<span style="color:red;background:aqua;">″″<ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby></span>]][[User:Translated ORK/CP|<span style="color:yellow;background:blue;"><ruby><rt>″</rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby></span>]] 2025年6月26日 (四) 17:42 (CST)
::"the World hasn't even started yet" from mobile game Project Sekai [[User:DGCK81LNN|DGCK81LNN]]（[[User talk:DGCK81LNN|留言]]） 2025年6月26日 (四) 17:48 (CST)

这里我使用[[希顶英语]]转写（而非根据片假名逐音节对应）了歌词中的英语音译词，而其他使用片假名书写的词用全中写表示。既然我们已经将日语汉字按希顶华语转写了，那么按原语言读音转写外来语应该是合理的。另外，对于助词 は、へ 我选择按照字面而非实际读音进行转写。

我认为使用附标 ¨˚¯ 来代替[https://lnnbot.vudrux.site/files/7f6685f62918fa5c75328c30f03064fa26c5dd07.png 浊点]、半浊点、长音符也很好，可以考虑使用。

[[User:DGCK81LNN|DGCK81LNN]]（[[User talk:DGCK81LNN|留言]]） 2025年6月26日 (四) 14:39 (CST)

==testing==

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<ruby><rt></rt></ruby>″″
〈″″〉<ruby><rt></rt></ruby> 

<ruby><rt></rt></ruby> <ruby><rt></rt></ruby><ruby><rt></rt></ruby> <ruby><rt></rt></ruby>

<ruby><rt></rt></ruby>}}

It worked, thanks

====speak of the devil====
[[User:Visaa11]] just 2 days after

== Doubt about page move ==

I don't understand why this page was suddenly moved without a clear explanation. [[User:ColorfulGalaxy|ColorfulGalaxy]]（[[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy|留言]]） 2025年9月21日 (日) 09:39 (CST)